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Edison Local remembered

November 17, 2013

To the editor: The Edison Local School District, formerly a School of Excellence, died after a lengthy battle with voters in the district. Several attempts to save the district were unsuccessful....

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Moteman

Nov-17-13 8:54 AM

WHAT A CROCK!

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RPG0340

Nov-17-13 10:49 AM

I agree Moteman. I also have to say that author of this article as with previous letters to the editor regarding Edison local are either complete idiots or teachers union hacks. First and foremost, there are no consolidation plans and if there were, they are about 10 years too late. Next, I suggest that those of you that want this levy to pass (those of you that are teachers, have a secure guaranteed pension, guaranteed pay raises, great benefits) volunteer to pay more? How about those that do not own any property (and therefore do not pay property tax) put together a plan that would REQUIRE you to pay your fair share as well.

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Moteman

Nov-17-13 12:15 PM

RPG I having been hearing these scare tactics out here for years. Nothing like that will happen unless the State comes in and takes over the district and that could take years. Let's say it happens this year. I would guess most of the Knoxville, Sugar Grove ,Stratton, and Empire area would consolidate with Toronto. Maybe 2500 to 3000 voters 60% that usually vote against levies. Not many renters and no welfare housing. I would guess Toronto would not pass many more levies as they barley pass as it is now. Toronto will not want tnis consolidation and would in all likely hood fight it. What wrote is a figment of her imagination. These scare tactics leave a bad taste in voters mouth and do the district an injustice.

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Moteman

Nov-17-13 12:18 PM

what i meant to write ----- What Sandy George wrote is a figment of her imagination. These scare tactics leave a bad taste in voters mouth and do the district an injustice

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concernedparent

Nov-17-13 2:25 PM

As I recall Mrs. George used to be against the levy. I agree with RPG0340, all of these people that are "for" the levy should be volunteering to pay more money to "save" their beloved district. My taxes are already high enough. I have 3 children that we are trying to put through college without any assistance. My wife and I both work full-time at our careers, we live on a budget and higher property taxes do not fit into that budget. One thing I cannot understand is why Edison would build federal stimulus money into their budget. Instead of boo hooing about their financial issues and begging us tax payers for more money, they need to go to their employees and have them make some concessions like paying for their own healthcare like most of us do. I am not willing to pay an additional $800.00 or more in property taxes, my budget does not allow for such an increase.

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RPG0340

Nov-17-13 2:29 PM

I agree Moteman. The teachers union uses scare tactics to influence those with children. Look at what they did last year, they took bussing away. I asked a couple of my Co-workers that have children that go to Edison what they thought. Two of those I talked to bought cars for their kids to drive to school. They said that since they had to solve the problem on their own (by getting their kids drivers licenses and buying cars, paying for extra insurance and gas), they would never vote for a levy now.

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NoSupportThisTime

Nov-17-13 2:59 PM

Mrs. George, Did you know... that Edison Local's effective property tax rate is higher than every surrounding district? Check the schools levy flier... Did you know... That the district will be losing over $300,000 in transportation reimbursement funding from the state because of not busing the high school and reducing the miles driven and number of buses used? Did you know that if your property value goes down, you will pay less property taxes? Did you know?? the district lost 130 students this year??? Yet there have been no staff reductions.... Did you know... That students who must drive to school, also have to pay for a parking pass to park on your public property, yet the staff gets to park for free...

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RPG0340

Nov-17-13 3:48 PM

130 Students gone? That has to be almost 1/8 of the student body and no cuts in teachers?!?! WTF?

I agree that it is absolute crap that STUDENTS that are forced to drive to school because of no bussing have to pay a fee for parking.

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GeorgeS

Nov-17-13 7:19 PM

Wonder how Edison "lost" 130 students. Perhaps the mass exit has begun? And yes I am aware your taxes go down when your property value goes down- Nice perk for losing your equity when you try to sell isn't it? And finally yes I campaigned heavily to vote no for the levy to build a gym, build a new school. I have supported operational levies every time they are on the ballot.

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RPG0340

Nov-18-13 10:26 AM

My problem with any levy in any district is that many of those that can vote to raise taxes, don't have to pay the higher taxes. Of the people that have their taxes raised some cannot afford it. Of those that have their taxes raised most cannot just request and receive a pay raise. Teachers, because of their unions can just hold kids hostage to get a pay raise if it isn't already in their contract. They already held the kids hostage by not providing bussing, and look how that worked out. They will never get a levy passed now. You watch, their next step will be to charge a large "parking fee" for kids that drive to the high school to further put the squeeze on taxpayers. My suggestion would be to change the way a levy is funded, how about a district sales tax? That way a person that supports the levy can shop in the district and those that don't can drive elsewhere to do their shopping.

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Moteman

Nov-18-13 12:34 PM

Voters do mot trust the school board or administrators at Edison. The voters have questioned the operation of the District. Then property owners shouldn't. have to fund an incompetent ,corrupt school district or a union that only represents a few teachers that make Cadillac wages and health care.

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NoSupportThisTime

Nov-18-13 2:36 PM

Did you know..... The current school board president, who just got reelected to the board of education is again delinquent on his property taxes.... Nice example to set for the rest of the tax payers in the district!!!

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Moteman

Nov-18-13 5:05 PM

Is Edison school district corrupt? I have plenty of stories. Are Edison School District funds being handled incompetently. I believe so.

Until they can regain the trust and do things right most voters are saying let the State come in and take over. You mean the supper wants us to pay more property tax while he pays nothing. If his home is up for sheriff sale I will be there bidding.

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RPG0340

Nov-19-13 10:19 AM

As an EHS grad, it does annoy me that the district is failing. However, it is not the fault of the property owners or voters for voting the levy down. It is the fault of the school board, and the teachers union. I remember when the teachers almost went on strike in the 90's. Teachers instructed their students to take part in vandalizing and harassing the replacement teachers. They put thumb tacks on seats, hid the lesson plans, etc... Does that genuinely sound like people that need a pay raise?

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Getthefactscorrect

Nov-19-13 11:43 AM

Wow. You all must be scared. 31 votes of passing. This levy is going to pass with or wihout your support. Also, you are really classy with personal attacks. The school board presidents taxes are a total of $8.65. Sounds like the payment was a few dollars short.

Where were you during the past election? Three board seats up and no one ran besides the president. Complain all you want but you never step up to do anything.

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Getthefactscorrect

Nov-19-13 11:50 AM

As a matter of fact, there is a board meeting tonight at John Greggn at 7:00 pm. Why don't you go since you are so concerned about the district and education.

Lets be honest. You are not.

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RPG0340

Nov-19-13 12:15 PM

GTFC, FYI, I do not live in the district yet. When I do move there, I'll take a board seat. I'd go to the meeting but I have to work so I can pay my taxes, unlike teachers, I don't get a guaranteed pay increase when my taxes increase, or min. wage is increased. Don't worry buddy, your levy failed despite all the election signs put up for it versus the 0, zip, ziltch, nada, not one opposition sign. I'll write a letter to the editor every week in opposition if I have to. The rights of those taxpayers in that district need to be protected.

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takeoff2011

Nov-19-13 12:21 PM

Who cares? The federal/state/local methods of funding public schools and other public services are all broken. Until politicians get it figured out, locals will continue to battle each other over issues like this. No common ground will ever be reached by those who support the taxes and those who do not. Just wait until "public" school becomes privatized and, on top of taxes, you have to pay tuition for elementary, middle, and high school instruction. At that point in time, all "No" votes and "Yes" votes can agree to whine and cry about the same thing. At that point, it will be too late.

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NoSupportThisTime

Nov-19-13 2:28 PM

GTFC... So if I am a few dollars short on my students pay-to-participate or consumable fees, it is okay.... because it is only a few dollars... correct??? This board member is proposing new taxes, yet he can not keep his paid in full.. It is not the amount that he is past due... IT IS THE FACT THAT HE IS PAST DUE, FOR THE SECOND TIME DURING HIS TENURE AS A BOE MEMBER.

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Getthefactscorrect

Nov-19-13 4:55 PM

Oh my lord. He is unfit to serve. Really! He made an error and you want to attack him.

I'm glad you are perfect. Once again, why don't YOU do something for the district.

I will be campaigning harder then ever for the next time around.

Now I know why I don't read these comments. Nothing but negativty and attacks.

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RPG0340

Nov-20-13 9:58 AM

I'm starting to think that GTFC, is that school board member in question.

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RPG0340

Nov-20-13 10:00 AM

NSTT, I agree. If you were short on fees, I doubt they'd let your kids play. I wonder what happens if someone cannot pay their extra property taxes?

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Rutang

Nov-21-13 12:48 PM

RPG- the more you comment the more uninformed you sound. You talk about teachers back in "the 90's" who "almost went on strike". I went to EHS in the 90's and I'm calling BS on this. If you want to push your agenda that the school board is corrupt, inept, only out for themsleves or whatever other ignorant label you want to place on them, that's your perogative, but at least base it on facts. My spouse is a teacher (not in the Edison nor any district near there) and I can assure you there are no yearly salary increases to cover raising taxes (or whatever off based reasoning you gave), as a mater of fact my spouse's district hasn't given a raise in over 20 years, and it is a district of nearly 6,000 students. You obviously have no idea what teacher's and the union are negotiating for. In our case it was not about wages, but about classroom size, curriculum cuts, no supply budget, etc. You only see what fits your agenda, not reality. So punish the kids b/c of yo

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RPG0340

Nov-22-13 12:57 AM

Rutang, your post makes you sound like an idiot. I was describing how the teachers that almost went on strike were sabotaging their classrooms to get at the "scabs." Do you think that is childish? A bunch of "educated" people that we are supposed to trust our children with teaching them to hurt, annoy, and prank others? No, not all of them are bad, bust some are. I never mentioned anything about corruption, perhaps you should learn to read. Teachers unions bargain for benefits and pay that is much greater than the resident of their district, and now they want to*****more from them. You claim kids are punished? I have to ask you, who took away bussing?

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Rutang

Nov-22-13 11:21 AM

RPG- I'm an idiot?...Wow, well that pretty much solidifies your credibility. I was talking in a general sense when I mentioned corruptness because your posts as well of others elude to a corrupt system/board. Maybe you should learn to comprehend. If a school board cannot afford to bus students then they must stop bussing. It's simple economics. They can't pull money from nowhere to maintain, fuel and pay drivers. You provide no solutions, just a bunch grandstanding. Also, you want to punish today and tomorrow's kids because of some alleged sabotage from over 20 years ago? Seriously, that is completely backwards. A lot of the teachers there now are from various 90's EHS classes, the board is different...so you want to hold them responsible for the alleged actions of those from 20 plus years ago?

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