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Remember attacks on our freedom

October 20, 2013

To the editor: Two millennia past, an individual, much more than human, a unique hypostastsis, was asked the greatest commandment....

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RPG0340

Oct-20-13 9:39 AM

Leave it to Core and the Commie to cry racism and offer up an idea how more government is the cure to our condition!

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Echobravo

Oct-20-13 11:11 AM

When asked, "Who is my neighbor" he continued with a parable showing that the term neighbor meant all humanity.

If you are complaining about the government and trying to use religion. Remember there is a separation of church and state. Also per your quote above and your letter, you don't too much like a christian. If the ACA was intended to take care of YOUR NEIGHBOR, why not push congress to fix it versus nix it. The bill is by no means perfect, but people are blindly following the supposed moral christian valued people in getting rid of it totally without an alternative.

For those who says there is an alternate plan, please spell it out and not a fox nut link.

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RPG0340

Oct-20-13 6:28 PM

Echobravo, here is my issue(s) with ACA and why I don't like it.

1. My healthcare costs increased because of it.

2. My taxes will increase.

3. See #1, and #2 and see that even though I paid a lot for healthcare I now pay more. (The polar opposite of what the dear leader said would happen)

4. I pay more to provide care for people that already had healthcare because they are on Medicaid, and welfare.

5. Nobody that I know of has ever been denied treatment from a hospital.

So, let's recap. We passed the most costly legislation in our nation's history despite 75% of the people opposing it so that we can give healthcare to people that already had healthcare at the expense of those that pay for those people's healthcare anyway.

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RPG0340

Oct-21-13 9:17 AM

Dadjoveric, my insurance costs have increased. My employer's open enrollment is going on right now. The costs have increased. I didn't say that my taxes increased already, I'm saying that they will increase. That is how government runs, on tax dollars. Since this is the most costly legislation ever passed in the history of our country our taxes will increase. So, are you just towing your party line, or are you just one of those that live on the government dole and wouldn't know if costs increased or not anyway. Furthermore, costs of goods and services will increase as well. But once more, most of the Obama supporters won't feel the pain there either since most don't actually work.

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Echobravo

Oct-21-13 11:56 AM

RPG - I will still stick to my comment that ACA needs bipartisan fixing. Anyone with common sense would want a fix to a problem versus scrapping it. The problem is politics and people who blindly follow other nay sayers. Again, I would like to SEE an alternate plan. What's attacking our freedoms are the spineless representatives in both/all parties making money off the American people by feeding them BS and hate. The country is changing and the people need to change with it. Personally our moral fiber has declined so much that trusting this nation to do the right thing is now questioned even more in other countries.

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Hagrid

Oct-21-13 2:36 PM

"There's absolutely no basis for a belief that the cost of goods and services will increase."

Tax on medical devices, co-pays going up already, premiums already going up, fewer doctors to serve far more patients (there's your supply and demand for you.)

"As more and more people enter into the collective, costs should come down."

How many have signed up so far for this wonderful medical plan? How many healthy individuals need to pay in to support it? We await your answers.

"Actually, the way I see it, all of the "problems" with ACA - the things people are complaining the most about - are because of bi-partisan compromise."

Nothing to do with higher costs? Or reduced services? Or not even being able to sign up? No complaints there, right?

I like "the collective", Sounds so Marxist.

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Hagrid

Oct-21-13 2:40 PM

"Anyone with common sense would want a fix to a problem versus scrapping it."

Not your president and your Democrats in Congress. They said there was nothing wrong, and refused to negotiate. Remember?

"Personally our moral fiber has declined so much that trusting this nation to do the right thing is now questioned even more in other countries."

Impossible. The Great Uniter was going to make everyone love us. Remember?

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Hagrid

Oct-21-13 9:28 PM

Excellent, Valleyman. I'm sure EB will respond with a harty "THANK YOU" for taking your time to do that research for him.

"he turned out to be right when he said they were in Syria"

Absolutely true.

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Echobravo

Oct-21-13 10:51 PM

Vman - (YOU) computers so I wiki asked for your info. Don't forget Bush and family trips back to Texas. They did not just jump on commercial jet my friend. Perhaps you under estimate the cost of fly AF-1, C-141, all the secret service vehicles, and all the staff that you failed to mention for the Bush's. Don't submit half info about former POTUS/FLOTUS/Daughters. Continue your blind following of wing nuts my friend. Next time your monthly check should stop on the next shutdown and then you will see truly of what the government does for you.

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Hagrid

Oct-22-13 10:19 AM

The Obama's trips to Hawaii cost the taxpayers $20 million plus alone. That's about the cost of all Bush's trips to his own home combined.

EB, please give us the cost difference for security at an isolated, private 1,500 acre ranch in Texas with only family around, compared to the cost of an entourage of friends in a public place with thousands of strangers. Please?

Oh! I forgot the hotel rooms for dozens of friends and staff.

Don't forget the cost of transporting vehicles, communications equipment, security, etc (as opposed to Bush's fixed costs). OK?

That way you can see a true comparison. Just looking at the locations and logistics, without the research, should tell you how different the costs are. But, please. Do the research. It is nothing more than you demand of others, after all.

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Hagrid

Oct-22-13 2:53 PM

Wrong again, core.

The Republican held House offered at least FOUR plans to keep the government running. The Dems rejected every one.

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Hagrid

Oct-22-13 2:58 PM

Today's Headlines:

NSA SPIED ON FRENCH DIPLOMATS

ANGER: France Demands Answers...

Mexico calls NSA spying on former president 'unacceptable'...

RECORD 90,609,000 AMERICANS NOT IN LABOR FORCE...

Employment among women hits 24-year low...

Economy 'stalling'...

REPORT: IRS spent $132 BILLION on bogus tax credits...

Faber: Fed could up QE to $1 TRILLION a month!

Saudi spy chief says Riyadh to 'shift away from US' over Syria, Iran...

Group accuses U.S. of 'war crimes' over drone strikes...

'Homeland' Spends $80M On Armed Guards for 'Civil Disturbances'...

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Echobravo

Oct-22-13 3:00 PM

Hagrid - (YOU) Don't forget the cost of transporting vehicles, communications equipment, security, etc (as opposed to Bush's fixed costs). OK?

AF-1 (Air Force One), C-141 (Air Force Transport Jet that transports all the SS vehicles/POTUS vehicle). No President travels alone (nor families). Now can you go back and re-calculate the costs that you said are fixed cost. Each time these planes go wheels up, there is a cost involved. Sounds like you are trying to justify that DOUBLE STANDARD.

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Hagrid

Oct-22-13 3:05 PM

Question, core.

You were resoundly against Bush spying on Americans calling known terrorists overseas.

How do you feel about Obama spying on millions of Americans, and our allies?

They certainly don't like it.

I hope the question didn't confuse you.

You have yet to retract your claim that Ughanda has a law calling for violence against gays. You may do it any time now.

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Hagrid

Oct-22-13 6:45 PM

Wouldn't it be easier to say that your "core" values shift tremendously with the wind, or determined by who is in office?

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Hagrid

Oct-23-13 10:47 AM

Saudi Arabia severs diplomatic ties with US over response to conflict in Syria

dailymail(dot)co(dot)uk/news/article-2472680/Saudi-Arabia-severs-diplomatic-ties-US-response-conflict-Syria(dot)html

Looks like The One's foreign policy is not doing so well.The signs of a narcissistic amateur.

"Upset at President Barack Obama's policies on Iran and Syria, members of Saudi Arabia's ruling family are threatening a rift with the United States that could take the alliance between Washington and the kingdom to its lowest point in years.

Saudi Arabia's intelligence chief is vowing that the kingdom will make a 'major shift' in relations with the United States to protest perceived American inaction over Syria's civil war as well as recent U.S. overtures to Iran, a source close to Saudi policy said on Tuesday."

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Hagrid

Oct-23-13 10:56 AM

REPORT: U.S. Spent $3.7 Trillion on Welfare Over Last 5 Years...

weeklystandard(dot)com/blogs/report-us-spent-37-trillion-welfare-over-last-5-years_764582(dot)html

Wow. Our President is doing a great job, isn't he? Those are your tax dollars, folks. Well, some of you.

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Hagrid

Oct-23-13 12:08 PM

CBSNEWS slams pricing...

Obama's web site tricks folks into displayed pricing that is HALF what they would actually pay!!! This from a LIBERAL web site:

cbsnews(dot)com/8301-505269_162-57608843/healthcare(dot)gov-pricing-feature-can-be-off-the-mark/

(CBS News) CBS News has uncovered a serious pricing problem with HealthCare.gov. It stems from the Obama administration's efforts to improve its health care website. A new online feature can dramatically underestimate the cost of insurance.

The administration announced it would provide a new "shop and browse" feature Sunday, but it's not giving consumers the real picture. In some cases, people could end up paying double of what they see on the website, CBS News' Jan Crawford reported Wednesday on "CBS This Morning."

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Hagrid

Oct-23-13 1:50 PM

Piers Morgan: Press 'Quite Soft' on Obama

newsmax(dot)com/Newsfront/Piers-Morgan-America-book-CNN/2013/10/22/id/532527

CNN's Piers Morgan, who as a top tabloid newspaper editor in Britain for years had his reporters ask tough questions and write hard-hitting exposes, thinks the U.S. press has been too easy on the Obama administration.

"I would say actually they've been probably quite soft and could have gone harder. The financial crisis was inherited by the president, but he's been there long enough to try to work it out himself. Unemployment's still comfortably over 7 percent — really completely unacceptable," said Morgan, 48.

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georgekaplan

Oct-23-13 6:05 PM

Oh goody, another empty LTTE from an uninformed valley *******. Yawn.

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georgekaplan

Oct-23-13 6:06 PM

Oh goody, another empty LTTE from an uninformed valley r e d n e c k. Yawn.

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georgekaplan

Oct-23-13 6:07 PM

and more empty comments from valley r e d n e c k s who can't do anything else but type "libtards."

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Hagrid

Oct-23-13 10:23 PM

(Thank you, Mr. President. Fine job.)

Census: 49% of Americans Get Gov’t Benefits; 82M in Households on Medicaid

cnsnews(dot)com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-49-americans-get-gov-t-benefits-82m-households-medicaid

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Hagrid

Oct-24-13 9:53 AM

There were some folks who expressed outrage when, under the Bush administration, spying was done on conversations between Americans and terrorists overseas.

Now that, under the Obama administration, this spying has exploded, including spying on our closest allies and innocent American citizens, these same folk are amazingly silent.

REPORT: NSA Recorded 124 Billion Phone Calls -- in One Month!

freebeacon(dot)com/report-nsa-spied-on-124-billion-phone-calls-in-one-month/

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Hagrid

Oct-24-13 11:49 AM

This from someone who has been banned numerous times, on numerous boards...

"Does Valleyman have naked pictures of your moms?"

wow. No wonder you keep getting banned.

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