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Interesting parallel in Zimmerman case

July 28, 2013

To the editor: In 2009, in a parallel almost too good to be true, neighborhood watchman Roderick Scott, a black man from Greece, N.Y....

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Moteman

Jul-28-13 10:33 AM

What a great letter Rob! You hit every point. I only hope that this case has diminished sharpton and jackson so much that they are pushed into obscurity, and forgotten. Thanks again Rob!

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RPG0340

Jul-28-13 10:43 AM

Well said!

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Wvcoffee

Jul-28-13 3:41 PM

Apparently you've never read any of Rob's previous letters. Throwing insults seems to be the way hd communicates.

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-28-13 7:05 PM

What an excellent letter, very on point. There have been dozens of attacks on truly innocent whites in the name "justice for Trayvon". To name a few; Zachary Gamble, Marine, beaten to death, in Cobb Cty, GA, the 13 yr old child set on fire in Kansas City, the pregnant woman beaten by 12 blacks. During March 24-25 at least 7 truly innocent whites were beaten by mobs in separate instances angry over the Zimmerman case. March 26, Seminole, FL., 50 yr old Mark Slevin beaten with a hammer by 2 black men so badly he was unidentifiable.

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-28-13 7:18 PM

78 yr old Dallas Watts, Toledo, OH, beaten by a mob of blacks yelling this is for Trayvon. In Gainseville, Fl 5-8 black men got out of a car yelling "Trayvon" then attacked an innocent 27 yr old white man. Again in Gainseville, FL Carl Babb, recently released from prison stole a white woman's purse. When the woman's companion chased him down and tackled him an angry mob started chanting "Trayvon" and stomping on the woman's companion. Matthew Owens, Mobile AL, beaten by a mob with chairs, metal pipes, brass knuckles, and paint cans. Norfolk, VA two reporters were beaten by dozens of black teenagers. Chicago, Illinois, Alton Hayes III and another black teen beat a 19 yr old with a tree branch for Trayvon's justice. Charleston, WV, two black men beat a 45 yr old man unconscious in front of girlfriend and two children, ages 9 and 13, and was robbed of $30. We also don't hear about the stickers being placed on white's mailboxes bearing Trayvon's picture and either the

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RPG0340

Jul-28-13 7:42 PM

WvCoffee, is self defense an act of racism if the attacker is of a different color than you?

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Wvcoffee

Jul-28-13 8:39 PM

So you're saying Trayvon had a right to defend himself from a stranger following him with a gun? Trayvon had a right to stand his ground? Would you feel threatened by a man following you on the rain? We'll never know the truth will we? Because just like the Wild West days of old. The truth is only told by the fastest draw. Stand your ground law is wrong. People who carry guns in pursuit of vilgilante justice are wrong. Any dimwit who claim to know any of the facts of case is wrong. His own jurors have admitted that Zimmerman got away with murder. As for some of the other tragic murders and actions listed in previous postings... No comparison... Getting into a fight at a party is never the same as walking home from 7-11. Try reading some facts before posting. The truth may even enlighten you.

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RPG0340

Jul-28-13 10:44 PM

WvCoffee, Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman had a firearm, yes. Zimmerman did not have his weapon drawn, nor was he "chasing" Martin. He did get out of the vehicle (a bad decision IMHO, and probably his too, now hindsight being 20/20). Stand your ground is what freedom is all about. You should not have to retreat from a place you are legally allowed to be. This law applies to neighborhood watchmen when attacked by drug hyped look alike sons of Obama as well as black men being confronted by the Ku Klux Klan. An armed society is a polite society.

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-29-13 9:04 AM

WVCoffee, it is you sir who needs to research the case a bit better. Did you know that Trayvon tested positive for drugs? Did you know that teens in FL are making a homemade drug to get high, made with skittles, iced tea, and either Robitussin or cough syrup with codeine. It's called the "purple drank", Google it. The Skittles and tea are not a coincidence. Did you know that Trayvon has a history of violent criminal behavior, burglary, and drugs? I listed plenty of instances of blacks attacking whites and FYI a mob of blacks beating one white person is not simply a fight at a party, that's a racist hate crime. When whites are victims of hate crimes perpetrated by blacks the hate crime charge is rarely filed. Most of the instances I listed were black mobs attacking and beating innocent whites solely because of Trayvon. Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, slammed his head off the cement, and was beating him "Ground and pound MMA style". Zimmerman never flashed his weapon.

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-29-13 9:21 AM

Zimmerman did not bring his gun out until he was fearing for his life. Can you say for sure that Trayvon had no intentions of burglarizing any of the Townhouses? I do think the entire situation is unfortunate and Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him. In his defense I probably would have tried to as well, the police rarely are able to figure out who had robbed a home. Criminals do get away a lot of the times in those types of crimes. As far targeting blacks as criminals, how many Whites, Italians, Chinese, etc. are out there mugging people, burglarizing homes, robbing stores at gun point, etc.? These types of crimes are mainly perpetrated by young black men, as long as the majority of poor blacks believe the "thug mentality" is the way to live their life they will be looked at as criminals because that is what they are, there is no reason to mix words. There are no "victims" of the white man, they're unemployed because they choose not to get an education and bette

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-29-13 9:52 AM

better themselves. Face it, the facts of the case support Zimmerman acted in self-defense as did the detective who investigated and testified. The NAACP and Obama bullying the DOJ into bringing a frivolous case against Zimmerman is insanity and against the American Way. Our founding father's made sure they included a clause making sure no citizen was subject to double jeopardy. Once again our president is ignoring the constitution that he swore to uphold and defend.

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Moteman

Jul-29-13 10:11 AM

Zimmerman didn't bring his gun out until Traymon saw it and tried to take it away from Zimmerman. Traymon went after Zimmerman, as told by his girlfriend on the Piers Morgan show, because they thought he was gay and was going to try to accost traymon. traymon committed the hate crime of gay bashing.

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Moteman

Jul-29-13 10:20 AM

Today in the news. Ten black teens attack lone boy walking home from a restaurant. Steal his cell phone.

Texas Ranger relief pitcher attacked by black teens walking to or from restaurant in Cleveland while he was there for ball game.

Street Mob Of black 10 Teens Brutally Attacks Man Walking Home From Work In Baltimore.

A Bethesda man was beaten and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan by three men who yelled, “This is for Trayvon Martin,” before attacking him, police said.

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ShakinMyHead

Jul-31-13 9:42 PM

If a strange man was following me in his car and then got out of his car and STILL proceeded to follow me, I'd attack him too and ask questions later. What child wasn't taught by their parents to watch out for strangers in cars they don't recognize? As I said, attack first, ask questions later.

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Moteman

Aug-01-13 10:06 AM

shakingmyhead what would you do if the person had his back to you and was walking away? Would you do the smart thing and go the other way? Most children I know would run away not attack the person from behind. Not Guilty Self Defense. The Jury spoke Get over it.

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ShakinMyHead

Aug-01-13 10:43 AM

Oh please..that's not what happened and you know it. If Treyvon would have kept walking, Zimmerman still would have continued to follow (stalk him) and if Treyvon would have ran Zimmerman would have thought he was even more guilty of something, which he was not. He had every right to be in that neighborhood. May have been found not guilty UNDER THE LAW but it doesn't change the fact that jurors have said they still think he got away with murder and he indeed is. Teens today don't put up with people's crap because parents don't teach respect. And having pot in his system has nothing to do with it. Plenty of good upstanding people smoke weed.

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RPG0340

Aug-01-13 12:42 PM

Shakinmyhead, You say "attack first, ask questions later?" That is precisely why people have CCW permits. Trayvon had a right to be where he was as did Zimmerman. Trayvon's right to be, and act like a thug ended the instant his fist contacted Zimmerman's nose. Trayvon's right to live ended the second he attempted to severely injure or kill Zimmerman. Zimmerman's right to use lethal force became valid when he was in a position where he could not retreat, and therefore the only option to stay alive was to use his handgun to defend his life against an attacker that was using the sidewalk as a lethal weapon.

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RPG0340

Aug-01-13 12:47 PM

Also Shakinmyhead, marijuana impairs a person's ability to reason, it also causes paranoia and psychosis. Martin my have thought Zimmerman was a zombie vampire from Mars coming to*****out his brain and drink his iced tea.

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RPG0340

Aug-01-13 12:51 PM

Also, you say that several upstanding "good" people smoke marijuana. I laugh at that. Marijuana is an illegal drug. People that partake in it's use are not good people. The dealers of that drug shoot at police. The smugglers also kill border patrol agents. The users of that drug also rob people to buy dope.

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Moteman

Aug-01-13 2:10 PM

shakingmyhead you should become better informed. Zimmerman was walking back to his car when he was attacked from behind. When traymon saw Zimmerman had a gun he tried to take it away from Zimmerman. traymon had skittles an ice tea to make a street drug. The jurors did not actually say they thought he, got away with murder. That came from more cleaver editing on ABCs part. Go watch the whole video interview and see those statemens in a whole different context. May be another law suit for Zimmermn. Factsbsure get in your way shakingyourhead. not guilty self defense get over it.

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Moteman

Aug-01-13 2:43 PM

V Man you crack me up, but you couldn't be more right.

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Rsimpson43952

Aug-02-13 12:50 AM

Firstly, plenty of good people do smoke Marijuana and just so you are aware the "Reefer Madness" PSA made in the 60's is nowhere near the truth. Marijuana has been decriminalized in Ohio and to be honest I believe Ohio is on the road to legalization. Marijuana is perfectly legal in some states, you should get off that pedestal you've put yourself on because you're not better than anyone else nor do you actually know as much as you think you do. Due to scientific advances the positive effects of Marijuana are now available in a pill form with none of the "stoner" side-effects. Did you know that children with leukemia are given THC tablets because of the positive medical effects? I personally believe Marijuana should be legalized. The money spent on combating pot is insane, the government should legalize it and then tax the heck out of it. It would create jobs, tax, revenue, etc. Without a need for illegal pot the Mexican drug cartels will no longer have a demand

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Rsimpson43952

Aug-02-13 1:05 AM

have a demand to supply. Violent offenders of any nature need to be in the justice system but when legalized I believe crime rate will drop significantly. Trayvon Martin not only was using pot but was also probably on the street drug, purple drank, made with skittles, iced tea, and Robitussin. Martin attacked Zimmerman from behind, went for his gun, and presented himself as a street thug what would any of us have done in that situation? I would have done what Zimmerman did. To be honest I'm getting sick and tired of hearing the "woe me" attitude from African Americans who choose to squander all opportunities given to them. Living the "thug life" is a choice, there are plenty of African Americans who are successful productive members of society. The African American community needs to stop perpetuating this "victim of the white man" attitude and focus on the real issues like absent parents, children born out of wedlock, lack of education, lack of accou

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Rsimpson43952

Aug-02-13 1:13 AM

accountability and responsibility, street thug rap music glorifying criminal behavior, etc. If these leaders like Sharpton were as concerned as they say they are then they would focus on these issues. Instead he takes up a case like this and cries racism. In my opinion it is for no other reason than fame and fortune.

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Hagrid

Aug-02-13 10:12 AM

ShakinMyHead, your suggested behavior is exactly what got Trayvon killed. Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch, had every right to follow Trayvon. As RPG0340 stated, things changed when Trayvon's fist hit Zimmerman's nose. And when his head was being slammed against the concrete with Trayvon on top of him, he had every right to protect his life.

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