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McLoyd issues call for dialog

July 25, 2013

STEUBENVILLE — The Rev. Calvin McLoyd, pastor of the Second Baptist Church, felt a personal need to speak out about the Trayvon Martin case and verdict during last week’s Sunday service....

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Moteman

Jul-26-13 3:02 PM

mrrose said I commend the reverend for engaging the community in dialogue. This is nothing more than libtard gobbley gook. Get real.

tomsays You couldn't be more wrong about the Zimmerman case. Totally wrong. Do yourself a favor read and comprehend what the other posters have written. that is the true story not your fantasy one.

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RPG0340

Jul-26-13 11:26 AM

Tomsays, there is nothing racist about people having the right to self defense. There is nothing racist about respecting how our judicial system works. There is nothing racist about killing a person of another color than your own when they are trying to kill you. You are right about the rape case. Justice was not served. Those boys deserve to do real time in real prison with the people they most resemble.

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Moteman

Jul-26-13 10:54 AM

What can I say, the overwhelming majority of posters hasn't already said? I can say this---- NOT GUILTY, SELF DEFENSE IS NOT A CRIME, and OHIO MAY SOON GET STAND YOUR GROUND!

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Gheppetto

Jul-26-13 9:58 AM

"I commend the reverend for engaging the community in dialogue. I applaud his courage and maturity."

Yeah, right. Takes a ton of courage to talk about how racists white people are.

There was a seventeen year old, black man that got stabbed to death last night in Steubenville. An 18 yo black man got shot to death last week in Steubenville. Will the "Pastor" speak on these deaths? No, because he is just a race baiting, poverty pimp..that would rather yell racism.

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mrrose

Jul-26-13 8:13 AM

I commend the reverend for engaging the community in dialogue. I applaud his courage and maturity.

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PimpDaddyBoss

Jul-26-13 8:00 AM

Hey Rev. When was oj simpson found not guilty, Did you call for dialog then or were you to busy dancing in the streets?

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-26-13 7:20 AM

What this pastor needs to focus on is black fathers being responsible role models for the young black people here in Steubenville. Also focus on, young people getting an education and not getting pregnant at a young age. The breakdown of the family unit is one the main factors playing into to the violence plaguing black neighborhoods. Violent crimes do not happen with that kind of regularity in white neighborhoods. There is a large deficit in parenting, accountability, and responsibility. Don't blame the city citing there's nothing for them to do, it is not the city's responsibility to babysit your child nor is it to teach your child how to be a responsible adult. The youth need to be raised in a structured environment and be held accountable for their mistakes, and that job is solely on the parents. .

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-26-13 7:08 AM

How is Martin an outstanding child when he had previously been suspended for multiple reasons. Specifically assaulting the bus driver, carrying drug paraphernalia and a bag with drug residue, being caught with burglary tools and a dozen female jewelry items, and skipping school. Go to ****gzlegalcase**** and you can see the evidence taken off of Martin's phone including pictures of drugs, smoking, etc., and also text messages sent by him bragging about being suspended from school. Martin was far from an outstanding child and he was not just some random innocent kid walking home from the store either. Martin chose to confront Zimmerman which resulted in the physical altercation. I'm prepared for the ones who are going to call me racist when it has nothing to do with race it has to do with criminals and criminal behaviors. Zimmerman was attacked and being beaten "ground and pound MMA style" by a larger person who portrayed himself as a street thug, what would any of you do?

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Rsimpson43952

Jul-26-13 7:01 AM

Trayvon Martin at 17 already had a criminal history of burglary, assault, and drugs. Justice was served in this case. Martin portrayed himself as a thug street criminal so why is anyone surprised Zimmerman perceived him that way. Martin had been suspended from school for being caught with burglary tools and a dozen female jewelry items who's to say Martin didn't have intentions of breaking into one of the townhouses, there had been a rash of break-ins. Martin described Zimmerman as a "creepy a*s*s cr*ck*er" and was the one who confronted then attacked Zimmerman, how was justice not served? I would have done the same thing had a thug street kid attacked me. It is insanity how it is now considered racist to defend yourself but no one bothers to touch on Martin's racist slurs. Leave Zimmerman alone, he was acquitted by a jury of his peers.

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TomSays

Jul-26-13 5:39 AM

You can feel the white racist comments here. A white man profiles then kills a black teenager and gets away with it. The black community is right to be upset about that outcome. Steubenville is just full of people who don't understand why the black communities across the USA are so upset. Justice was not served in this case just like justice was not served in the case of Jane Doe's rape by the hoigh school football players then covered up..

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frannyandzoey

Jul-25-13 11:53 PM

With all due respect, we do not need race wars here there or anywhere. Fear one of the kids here could get themselves killed w/ all drug/crime/violence right here. I will defend myself against anyone too, and we have some bad eggs in our little dump of a town. Dialogue yes, but self defense yes. How about we stand up for the kids who have no chance here 'cause of their loser parents. Get those families back in churches and off the mean streets pastor.

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lindalea

Jul-25-13 7:51 PM

Why did they not bring teachers or coaches to testify as character witnesses? Maybe its because he was booted out of school for fighting not to mention the other stuff. This was self defense and nothing more.

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lindalea

Jul-25-13 7:45 PM

Does this Rev guy know why Martin went to buy watermelon ice tea and skittles? Someone needs to tell him he was going to make a drug called purple lean. This little thug was not as clean cut as some people wanted him to be

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Johnson2616

Jul-25-13 7:16 PM

Wonder how much of this bullsh** we'd have if Zimmerman was black and Martin was white. These same idiots, Sharpton, McLoyd, and the biggest idiot, Obama would be singing the praise of the justice system.

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RPG0340

Jul-25-13 3:03 PM

Taydava66, you make a very solid point. How long before something like this takes place in Steubenville? We only hear about the crimes committed, not all the attempted carjackings where the victim got away without injury. What if a "rape crew" decides to pick the wrong victim (like an armed female)?

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taydava66

Jul-25-13 1:45 PM

McLoyd why don't you forget about Trayvon and focus your attention on the black on black shootings here in Steub. If this violence isn't stopped soon there will be a similar incident like Zimmerman and Trayvon right here in river city.

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taydava66

Jul-25-13 1:39 PM

McLoyd wants honest and open. You sir need to first start out by being honest. Rev. Sharpton ,Jackson and you are not being honest. You try to perpetuate the lie about Trayvon being a clean cut boy. I will be open Trayvon was a thug. He attacked Mr. Zimmerman when his back was turned and walking away. When he saw Mr. Zimmerman's gun he tried to take it away, and what do you suppose he would have done with it had he succeeded? Mr. Zimmerman was judged by a jury of his peers and rightfully found innocent. You also know that Mr Zimmerman a few days ago saved a family from a burning car, and not one peep about that from the lame stream media and all you so called Reverends.

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RPG0340

Jul-25-13 1:30 PM

Calvin McLoyd is promoting hate and anger in his own community by not calling this for what it is. Zimmerman was attacked, he defended himself. SELF DEFENSE IS NOT A CRIME, END OF STORY! Whether Zimmerman was black, white, Hispanic, Asian, or mixed does not make defense wrong, and no skin color or race makes Martin or his assault on Zimmerman right. If McLoyd wanted to help his community, he'd say something like accept the verdict, stop hating, pull your pants up, get a job, stop selling dope, stop shooting one another, stop robbing people, stop invading people's homes, and start treating everyone with respect.

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RPG0340

Jul-25-13 1:19 PM

Anyone else think it is funny that he referred to Trayvon Martin as an "outstanding" child? Martin was suspended from school for drug possession, promoted schoolyard fights, had pictures of himself handling a firearm (Illegal for someone that is under the influence of marijuana), smoking weed, not to mention the toxicology report (denied entry into evidence in the case) showed that THC was indeed in Martin's system that night. This "reverend" is a JOKE. Wonder what he thinks about all the shootings in his own town? I wonder if he thinks a black man calling a woman a "white b***h" is racist?

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PimpDaddyBoss

Jul-25-13 1:07 PM

Zimmerman was found innocent GET OVER IT

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Gheppetto

Jul-25-13 11:53 AM

Sir, you are a joke. Please explain how you can have an open and honest discussion about this "outstanding" child , who busted someone's nose open, then climbed aboard and start smashing his head off the pavement. Maybe that is "who you are" but I don't think most people agree with you.

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