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June 2, 2013

To the editor: Let me see now, which insipid collection of disjointed, incoherent tea party ramblings should I respond to this time? It’s always hard to pick on....

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Jun-02-13 7:57 AM

Atkison 1 Bardummy 0

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Jun-02-13 8:35 AM

First thing, not everyone who disagrees with the shady actions of the Obama administration is a "Tea Party" nut job. Some of us think this administration is corrupt to the core. Fast and Furious DID NOT begin under George W. Bush. The ATF began Project Gunrunner in 2005 and expanded it in 2006. In 2006 Operation Wide Receiver was run during the Bush Administration along with another probe of the cartels. Operation Fast and Furious was run from 2009 to 2011 under Obama. Obama got agents killed and showed NO remorse. So, since you don't know the difference between the main project to probe the cartels and the operations intended to ensnare them in illegal activities, then how can you make any claims that you understand what "tea party" or conservatives believe in? And whats with the keeping score and body counts? The liberal media stopped doing that when Obama was elected. Get with the program OK? Here is my score card for you guys. Bardone 0 Atkinson 0 America 0

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Jun-02-13 12:20 PM

Thanks, Spanky. Reality is always refreshing.

We can compare the conservative Tea Party to the liberal Occupy crowd. Compare platforms, cleanliness , arrests, general behavior. Everything.

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Jun-02-13 4:26 PM

Mr. Atkinson, Operation Fast and Furious did not begin under Bush. Operation Wide Receiver began under Bush and involved the Mexican authorities. Op. F&F was engineered to cause murder and mayhem to justify stricter gun control laws.

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Jun-02-13 9:49 PM

There are a lot of things tha I blame on Bush but Fast and Furoius is definitely and Obama admin. mistake. The Bush admin came uo with a very similar program known as Wide Receiver but was stopped by Bushs' Att.Gen for obvious reasons. Obama must take the responsibility for this one and should have known better since the fisrt program wa halted. It is his swcond term and he has enough time to correct the injustices and errors of the Bush/Cheney regime. Now it is time for Obama to be held responsible for his unwillingness and inability to to turn this country around. This entire 21st century has been a political washout. Nothing has been done for this economy except to ensure record profits for nbig business tha does not result in jobs or better wages. It is time to recognize that the democrats are no better than the republicans at elevating the quality of life for the working man. This government is dishonest and has been under the leadership of both parties.

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Jun-02-13 10:36 PM

If it is such nonsense, how about proving it wrong. Even the folks here that like Obama agree that Fast and Furious was Obama's fault. You want to talk other Obama follies? How about Solyndra? What about the IRS targeting TEA party groups? What about troops being ordered to stand down and allow Americans to be sodomized and killed?

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Jun-03-13 11:48 AM

To the editor:

Let me see now, which insipid collection of disjointed, incoherent tea party ramblings should I respond to this time?

It's always hard to pick one. One letter personifies the stupidity that permeates the Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Matt Drudge view of the world, and that is why you must add malevolent intent, racism, bigotry and sexism into the selection process. Although there are many worthy of dishonorable mention, one stands out as the "worst of the worst." Animus without reason

Pretty well sums up the GOP and why they cannot find an electable candidate.

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Jun-04-13 11:56 AM

Trooftella, do you believe that it is racist to use "ebonofied" screen names?

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Jun-04-13 12:00 PM

Trooftella, I do not believe that such a rule applies when the person in question uses his real name. In the case you are talking about the poster going by the name "Mr.Core," right?

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Jun-04-13 12:29 PM

Thanks Mr. Atkinson, I think I agree with most of your viewpoints sans the slightly condescending opening paragraph. Keep presenting your opinion with intelligence and good stewardship of the facts and the truth shall win out. Good job.

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Jun-04-13 1:55 PM

how can one expose the identity of a screen name with another screen name? Then when you willing give out your identity how does one expose them?

Wide Receiver was run on the up and up. There was no one killed with the guns and they were tracked. fat and Furious made legal gun sellers let straw buyers purchase weapons and take them across the border in violation of Federal law, and an agent was killed with an illegal gun. Then they went after the gun store owners who blew the whistle on the operation. Great job holder and obummer.

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Jun-04-13 3:52 PM

Way to go Herald Star!!! To think I actually believed this was an unbiased newspaper. I've sent in letters to the editor previously myself and remember there being a section clearly saying that personal attacks will not be printed. What is this juvenile rambling other than a personal attack on the author of a previous letter to the editor? I guess jokes on me for believing this type of trash would not be printed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion however blatant personal attacks is not something that should ever be printed let alone even accepted. Whoever approved this letter to be printed ought to be ashamed of themselves since it does go against the paper's own guidelines. I hope the gentleman this letter is directed toward gets to the bottom of why this was even printed. The author could have maturely stated his point without personally attacking anyone but instead this is what he chose. What a shame.

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Jun-04-13 4:09 PM

Well said Rsimpson43952

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Jun-04-13 6:10 PM

troof not one thing you posted about Wide Receiver refuted that it was run on the up and up and not one person was killed. You lose. So they made some mistakes but it was still far from the cluster bum that Fast and Furious turned out to be with a death and illegal straw buying. Fast and Furious was not intended to fight drugs it was a propaganda attempt to restrict the 2nd Amendment. You loose twice. Get over it.

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Jun-05-13 9:32 AM

OK troof let's say everything you say is right. It really isn't right you just have you facts confused with F an F. But let's pretend you are right. WR was a flop OK no one got hurt and no one was charged, we lost about 500 guns. Not good but let's see how FF went. One agent killed and more murders probably with the several thousand weapons that were purposely walked and not tracked. Gun store owners were made to sell the guns illegally and when they blew the whistle Holder tried to prosecute them. Then Holder claimed executive privilege so he didn't have to testify under oath and provide records the congress wanted. Which operation people was a scandal? You are wrong troof. case closed go home I am done schooling you.

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Jun-05-13 12:39 PM

Trooftella, in operation f&f a border agent was killed with one of the guns that was walked across the border. Gun dealers under the direction of the government sold to straw buyers. Now troof, tell me that had these dealers not blown the whistle they'd have ended up on the wrong end of a prosecution, not to mention probably getting blamed for causing murder and mayhem south of the border. They blew the whistle, and the guns ended up showing up at murder scenes. Holder should be in jail, and his big eared Kenyan buddy should be right there with him.

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Jun-05-13 1:24 PM

Answer this question.Tell us the truth trooftella! If you had to pick the lesser of the two evils WR or FF which one would pick to be the least of the evils?

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Jun-05-13 4:06 PM

Just like that other guy that was on here. He would never answer a question either.

Shall not be infringed.

To bad a registry is unconstitutional, and the rest of those things got turned down in the Senate and probably will never get passed.

You lose gain troof just answer the question or go home. You shouldn't play with the big boys

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Jun-05-13 4:09 PM

To clear it up. troof didn't answer the questions . We are all waiting to hear your answers.

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Jun-05-13 5:26 PM

I didn't ask for your opinion because that means nothing to me. The question was, If you had to pick, you didn't answer and you won't because you lost. You proved nothing all I heard were MSNBC, or Media Matters talking points. I don't believe that crap and you would do better if you got unbiased sources, and found out the troof. Can you think for yourself? Cased closed. Go home. You can't debate the BIG boys.

Now answer the second question.

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Jun-05-13 5:28 PM

The Second Amendment is an individual right.

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Jun-06-13 10:47 AM

Troof won't answer question reminiscence of a previous poster. troof is wrong. WR not bad and all legal. FF really bad with agent death and illegal activity.

Now ------ Top secret court order requiring Verizon to hand over all call data shows scale of domestic surveillance under Obummer. The document shows for the first time that under the Obummer administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk – regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.

I know I know Bush collected data too but not anywhere near what the Kenyan criminal is doing. Getting closer to impeachment.

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Jun-06-13 11:29 AM

From Read more ------------- www dot redstate dot com/2013/06/05/the-real-danger-of-liberal-bias/

We know that the IRS, at least at a certain level, targeted conservatives, pro-lifers, and Israel backers for extra scrutiny. We know this because the IRS admitted it. Those same allegations, made by conservatives for over a year, were ignored by a media too compliant with the ruling party.

This is what liberal bias is like. It’s not shading, it’s not playing up the Democrats against the Republicans. It is ignoring the stink of corruption from Democrats and government in general, because they can’t be wrong. It is about systemic corruption that goes unreported.

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Jun-06-13 11:52 AM

Trooftella, could you please explain how you believe the NRA is to blame for this.

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Jun-06-13 11:55 AM

The black helicopters are coming to take all of you nut jobs away to Dick Chaney's secret hideout.

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