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‘No’ vote will remain ‘no’ vote

March 3, 2013

To the editor: I am writing in regards to the failure of the Edison Local School District levy....

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Moteman

Mar-03-13 11:11 AM

Great letter Margaret. Mine will also remain a NO. Remember to vote against the incumbent school board members that keep allowing the district to keep putting this on the ballot. The school board works for the voters and the majority have told them we don't want the levies. They work for us not the school district administrators.

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-03-13 12:05 PM

I respect your opinion, but the board of education did not "try to sneak" anything past the voters. It was on the news and in the paper. Moteman make sure you start planning your campaign. I cant wait to see your name on the ballot. Let me guess, you wont run but will keep condeming the people who are trying. Board members are your elected officials to to the school district. They are to do what is in the best interest for the district and childfren, not what is in the best interest for Moteman. Go on line and read the school board members code of ethics.

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RPG0340

Mar-03-13 1:07 PM

GTFC, was eliminating transportation for high school students in the best interests of the children that don't drive, don't own cars, who's parents work and cannot transport them to class, that may not have any other way whatsoever to get to school?

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Moteman

Mar-03-13 2:17 PM

GTFC it is my right to vote any way I want, and you seem to want to take that right away from me and, anyone that disagrees with the school levies. Why I even respond to you is something I am starting to question. One thing you don't seem to understand it doesnt matter what the school boad code of ethics says. It is what the voters say, and if we won't vote for school boad member because they blindly go along with school adminstrators you can't stop it. Anyone that wants to be a school board member better start listing to the voters.

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-03-13 3:31 PM

RPG-THERE IS NO MONEY FOR BUSSING! You wanted the board to cut and they did. They are closing a school,cutting bussing and approx 25 positions. Moteman you are correct. The voters have spoken. You are getting what you wanted. Moteman, I only respond when you post unfounded items on this site. I didnt call anyone a "loser" like someone did on the Weirton Times site in regard to this letter. Once again I look foward to Moteman and RPG running for schoolboard of course we wont know who you are. I applaud the schoolboard who are INVOLVED in the district, support the district and kids, attend all of the events and why, because they care.

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RPG0340

Mar-03-13 4:21 PM

I disagree GTFC. Layoff teachers. How many of those 25 positions eliminated were teachers, I'd like to know. Next, ask the remaining teachers to take a collective pay cut to save the district perhaps pay for their benefits like the rest of us. If they do not comply, layoff to the absolute bare minimum. If that means 30 students for 1 teacher, that it is what it is. You still never answered my question. Was cutting bussing in the best interests of the children that cannot drive to school ,find a ride, or rely upon their parents for transport to and from school? Answer that question before hurling criticism at me please.

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Moteman

Mar-03-13 7:49 PM

Valleyman I doubt that will happen. I would guess a consolidation of several schools and the tax rates will be recalculated. Even if I get a small millage increase it won't be as high as the 9.4 then the 4 or 5 mils they are going to ask for to build new school.

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RPG0340

Mar-03-13 10:13 PM

Still waiting on that answer GTFC.

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takeoff2011

Mar-04-13 8:26 AM

I'm sure I will upset some folks on here with this comment, but oh well. I'm tired of hearing people complain about being set on a fixed income and not being able to afford the rise (albeit small) in their taxes. Every community in the state and across the nation has retirees in it. Somehow those individuals not working any longer have the ability to survive financially. So, why can the public that belongs to Edison not afford to do the same? I swear, the people of that school district won't be happy until the school system is financially run into the ground and becomes defunct. Then, potentially increased taxes from neighboring districts will be forced upon the unwilling tax payers of Northern Jefferson County.

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-04-13 9:25 AM

RPG. In the long run, yes cutting the bussing will be in the best interest for the kids and the district. The district will still be able to be solvent and provide them with the "BEST" education in the county. Lets remember you cant educate kids if you the district cant run. RPG, if you are so concerned about Edison, step up and support it.

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RPG0340

Mar-04-13 10:58 AM

WOW! Do you have any words for the kids and parents that don't have a way to get to school?

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Moteman

Mar-04-13 11:02 AM

Takeoff. Edison doesn't have much if any welfare housing. There are an over abundance of retired and laid off workers that can't afford the tax. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Another thing you neglect to think about is once you have retired that income never goes up. Yes your SS does go up if inflation gets higher but not enough to cover the higher cost of Food. heating fuel or fuel for your car to travel to purchase your food. After 10 years of retirement if you haven't seen to your own needs you could be in trouble. Seniors are not getting supported by the tax payers. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++=+========== Taxes went up with out the levy. This district is hurting not the schools, the people living here. The voters are stepping up supporting their selves first. Move to Steub. or Toronto where they have welfare housing to vote for their levies.

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Moteman

Mar-04-13 11:11 AM

Takeoff+++ Under Obummer gas prices have went up around 2 dollars a gallon. Heating fuel and electricity also skyrocketed. Do you know how much of a cost of living raise seniors have gotten since Obummer? We have got one cost of living raise. About 40 to 60 dollars a month while medicare has increased each year to take most of that. So in the last three years seniors actually are getting less than when Obummer took office with everything getting higher. +++++++++++++++I have a feeling the vote will always be NO!

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-04-13 1:16 PM

Yes I do RPG. Thank the voters such as you that do not take responsility to help fund the schools. Many times people on here have said, " I dont have any kids in the school so let other people fund it." That is not how the system works, like it or not. Kasich is not giving the district any more money, because the district has the capability of raising money by passing a levy. Unfortunately, Edison is considered a "RICH" district due to propery values. Until the legilature changes the way schools are funded, levies will still be placed on the ballot. REGARDLESS of who the school board members or administrators are.

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-04-13 1:18 PM

FYI. Going forward I am not responding to you nor Moteman in the future. You dont want to debate facts, but just make excuses of why people cant afford it or why people wont support it. Please keep voting no as it is your right and I will keep supporting Edison as is my right.

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Moteman

Mar-04-13 1:41 PM

GTFC and takeoff Just read this. I think I am going on welfare and then vote for the. levie s. A person on welfare gets not only a check but a debit card free hosing, free cellphone and internet. with all they get a working person would have to make 80 thousand a year.pretty good. for staying home and leaching off working people. Let me get on welfare and i'll vote for your levies.

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RPG0340

Mar-05-13 10:39 AM

I agree Moteman. I'd vote for the free stuff if it were "free" for me too.

GTFC, here is the problem. People with no stake in the game can play their hand; they collect on it if they win and walk away from the table unscathed if they lose. Why should the property owners be the only ones that foot the bill.

GTFC, You mad bro? We are engaging in an ongoing conversation about this. Taking your ball and running for home is a good sign you are losing.

The taxpayers want to be respected as much, if not more so than the tax consumers.

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Getthefactscorrect

Mar-05-13 12:03 PM

No RPG, I am not losing. However, there is better use of my time working with people who want to try and support the district. I already know how you and Moteman feel about Edison. No reason to beat a dead horse. I respect your opinion, but we just happen to disagree.

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takeoff2011

Mar-05-13 2:00 PM

FREE? The teachers take free handouts? You say that as if teachers do not work at all for a paycheck. Granted, teachers do not physically break their backs when it comes to educating our youth. But you are sadly mistaken if you believe there is no mental or emotional exhaustion experienced by educators. Most of the time, it is a result of dealing with behavioral or parental issues more so than educational issues. Let's not forget the hundreds of hours and dollars teachers are required of on a regular basis to continue their education and professional development. So much goes on the behind the scenes of education that the public refuses to acknowledge. Again, ignorance prevails.

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Unitas

Mar-06-13 9:38 AM

These fiscal problems will continue until the State steps in and mandates a minimum number of students for a school district to exist as the political entity they are. It will never occur locally, since BOE members and administrators have selfish interests. Can you imagine a BOE electing to consolidate? There should only be one school district in Jefferson, Belmont, Harrison and Caroll counties due to the low population. Taxes will be lower as a result, and this endless levy seeking would come to an end.

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RPG0340

Mar-06-13 11:09 AM

Takeoff2011, the mental exhaustion that teachers experience is minimal compared to your average worker around here. I'll take little Jimmy cursing at me over pondering my job being there next week anyday. If you screw up, you get paid admin. leave (vacation) for a few days and a month later it is all forgotten. If I screw up, I get serious consequences, my job held over my head for 6 months or fired.

They are also given paid time off to attend their continuing education classes, they are also reimbursed for their educational expenses. Teachers have it good, they should be thankful for what they have, or join the parents of those they teach.

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