GOP doesn’t care about the people

@MrCore before there can be a consensus on who is failed to compromise we have to come up with where is the center. While I can see your view at the moment, both sides are guilty of the pandering

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Both sides are guilty of arguing for their positions, and their positions are at odds. However, only one side is guilty of refusing to come to a reasonable compromise. Only one side is guilty of walking away from the table without having budged an inch. And that side is the far right.

Not the entire GOP wants it like that, but the fringe of the GOP are running the show, and therefore the whole GOP becomes the "side" that caused the problem.

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As far as the statement about "Obamacare" the invection was my own. Yes I agree the healthcare covers more then the new healthcare bill. One of my sources was usgovernmentspending****/piechart_2013_US_fed

It IS not an org, it IS a com, yet seems that the information is at least mostly accurate by citations at the bottom of the page.

We can go back and forth on this issue all we want, but the theory still stands that it is NOT just a GOP thing. Both sides are guilty of heeling to party lines instead of working toward a united government that can return back to governing and not acting like a pack of 10 year olds fighting over a tonka truck.

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RPG, I read the first sentence of your rant and stopped because you're off topic. I could post about how Bush lied us into two wars, how the WOT has actually made terrorism WORSE, how 911 could have been avoided if Bush would have kept his eye on the ball, but none of that is pertinent. We're talking about how we got a deficit, not why we're fighting a war. Stay on topic.

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Mr. Core, do understand that we are in a 10 yr.+ war because Bill Clinton failed to drop the hammer on bin dirtball years before the current war began? We are in financial trouble because of SPENDING, mostly on bad programs like welfare, and studying shrimp on treadmills, and paying farmers to not grow crops. You think the GOP don't care about people, neither do the dems. Obama has about as much in common with you as a monkey has in common with an eel. The government is taking more of my money this year. So, I'll buy less unnecessary stuff. Lower my burden and I buy more. You've got to stop thinking it works in reverse.

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We just spent a decade at war - the longest we've ever been at war, and we didn't raise taxes the entire time. We've never fought a war without raising taxes to pay for it. It's no wonder we have a deficit. The ENTIRE time Dems were calling for tax increases, and the ENTIRE time the GOP said no. That's a fact. That's an actual historical fact. That's an actual RECORDED historical fact.

The deficit belongs to the Republicans.

Clinton left with a projected surplus. Bush began his stint in office by giving us all tax rebates of money the government projected it would have in the future, and then he began spending money we didn't have yet and cut taxes assuring that we never would have it. Also a recorded historical fact.

Obama asked for a stimulus to end a recession, and it worked and the increased revenues paid for the stimulus within three years. Fact.

ACA mostly pays for itself. Fact - historical - documented.

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I agree with most of what you said, however, I think your percentages may have come from a dubious source, but not for the reasons you may suspect. I actually think the fact that your parenthetical about healthcare costs being due to (Obamacare) suggests that the site you got the numbers from has an agenda. Most of the healt care costs go toward Medicare and Medicaid. ACA (Obamacare) is mostly cost neutral from a government standpoint although part of the 24% does include ACA spending, it's more like 31% Medicaid and Medicare, 3% ACA.

The one thing I don't agree with though, is that the government should balance the budget at the expense of providing necessary services. If there is a revenue shortfall, the government should increase revenues to accommodate the shortfall, not cut spending to avoid increasing revenues unless there are no options for increasing revenues - which is clearly not the case.

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transportation 3%, general govt spending,1%, other spending (how is this explained?), 3% and Interest 7%. This is for 2013. Government pay raises and pensions are breaking our back. Government healthcare is not helping it heal. Military spending is high but I can understand the arguments for it when looking at the chaos across the globe. This is NOT a republican problem, this is NOT a democratic problem, this is an AMERICAN problem that needs repaired before we end up suckin hind teet in credit worthiness and end up in deep depression.

IF WE dont have it---- we shouldnt spend it-----pare it down, clean out the trash, and get on with governing. Stop the dang infighting and get to something worthy of news.

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I agree with the statement about military spending. Not so much on having a spending issue. There s an argument regarding taxes that I kinda agree with. Raising personal taxes is fine to a point, closing loopholes is a MUST, that should have been done 50 years ago. Raising capital gains taxes would help, BUT, there is spending problem. I will get to that in a second. There should have never been a cap on taxable incomes for social security. There also should not have been the ability to raid the SS funds with the I.O.U. slip put in with no intent of repaying it. (both sides guilty)

As for a spending problem, it is ALWAYS a problem when we do not "spend within our means". This would include pay "raises" for govt workers across the board signed by EXECUTIVE order 13635 effective march 27 2013. This is just one tidbit of it. govt spending is as follows, Defense, 24%, Healthcare(obamacare) 24%, Pensions for govt workers, 23%, welfare 11%, edumication 4%, protection 2

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Other than military spending - which is ridiculously high, we do not have a spending problem in our government. What we have is a revenue shortfall. And that could easily be fixed. Social Security revenues could be fixed by raising the cap on taxable incomes for Social Security. Other shortfalls could be fixed by eliminating loopholes in the tax code. Rates wouldn't necessarily have to go up at all - for anybody. Heck, just taxing capital gains at income rates would be a great start.

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In March, the Congressional Budget Office projected that under the president’s proposed budget for 2013, spending would equal 23.4 percent of GDP while revenues would be 17.2 percent. The deficit, CBO said, would equal 6.1 percent of the economy that year and average 3.2 percent over the 10-year period ending in 2022

This was not detailing republican statements. This is from a dem heavy CBO. Spending outstriping revenues. This tells me NO politician cares enough about the "people" to do what is right morally or with any true "care" about America. If we as individuals budgeted as our govt does, it would be called "Irresponsibility" DEM or REP doesn't matter no one truly cares for the peoples plight in USA.

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To keep this clear, The statement GOP doesn't care is misleading, and the blogger that posted that first blog or letter to the editor was/is biased. People are going to believe what they have been taught to believe. Neither political party has "good for the people" stamped in their name. One side is for smaller govt, the other is for "govt take care of me". Someone said govt only 20% of Unemployment. yeah? and? If you add 40% of jobs in govt, and then reduce by 20% is that still not MORE then at the start? Anyone that says the Govt does not need slimmed is either uninformed or listening to political pander on BOTH sides. This article should not have read, GOP doesn't care, it should have read, POLITICIANS don't care about the people.

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Obama is a disgrace and honestly I'm not happy with either Republicans or Democrats. What happened to doing the right thing for the country because it's the right thing to do. What is the difference between the way the bloods and crips operate versus the way Republicans and Democrats operate? They're both illogical groups of people holding onto nonsensical notions. ReBLOODlicans and DemoCRIPS is a great book by Jesse Ventura I suggest all of you read. It shouldn't matter to which party you belong to, what is best for this country is what should ALWAYS be done. When our lawmakers pledge allegiance to a political party before America we're the ones that are in trouble. During the last election I voted for Mitt Romney but in reality the only candidate that was really worthy of taking office was Gary Johnson. I didn't vote for him because I knew he wasn't going to win and any vote for him would essentially put Obama one more vote above Mitt Romney.

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Government jobs account for about 20% of the new unemployment in the last few years. Do you know why that is? It's because of spending cuts. If you don't think there have been attempts to reduce spending under Obama's watch, then either you're not paying attention or you are willfully ignoring the evidence that contradicts your ideology.

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I make you an offer, get your state and senate and congressional and the president ... ger their wages back to what is comparable to a monkey with a calculator .Stop all the 15 secretaries in eaIf the govt. cannot come to terms on important legislation.... vacations are illegal , office that sit around texting each other instead of working, Until the govt. can tackle the bills as they need to be then NO VACATIONS until completed. NO GOLF TRIPS....nothing except get they job done. We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem. And honestly a man in office that doesnt seem to care about much but his legacy...

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Ok I will put this in teenspeak. cutting the tax breaks WIll add a stream into the coffers. A small stream. Reducing the spending and a larger river mysteriously arises.

Obama talks about tax cuts and rises in the same sentence. worlds are cheep, actions speak louder then words. Obama has done nothing to try to curb his spending, in fact his "new" offices and TSAR watchmen overseeing every aspect oh cash flow. YET we continue to raise the debt ceiling KNOWING we dont have the money to pay for those lans.

Is this a lll Obama's fault,? NO Bush had a reason though, Obama cleamed Gitmo dismantled, all troops out of afganistan and Iraq, a workforce UNDER 8% and he said he preferred 5%. ... whie our gdp went from 15% to 24% held by gov t.

But I understans. Our*****dont stink, so if we smell something it must be the neighbor. Blame repubs all you want.. your demigods are so but backwards that you believe social distribution to those less financially secured...

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Good, now we're getting somewhere. Do you also agree that continuing tax cuts adds to the deficit?

If no, you're wrong, but whatever.

If yes, do you agree that Obama tried to end the tax cuts for those earning over $250k last year, but the GOP blocked him?

If no, you're wrong again, but whatever.

If yes, do you acknowledge that Obama has added less new spending than any president since Eisenhower?

If no, once again, you're wrong, but whatever.

If yes, do you also agree that all of this together means the GOP owns the deficit? Because that's what it means.

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Mrcore,i agree that the ongoing wars are a major factor in the deficit problem.

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Spanky, I didn't make a statement that was critical of the choice to go to war. I made a factual statement about the fact that the spending for the wars being an ongoing commitment. Your saying that Bush blaming is getting old is getting old. I merely noted FACTUALLY that Obama cut spending, but the deficit went up anyway because it was going to go up no matter who was president due to the fact that deficits come about as a result of money that you have to spend (such as war money) when revenue is down (because of tax cuts) and that both the tax cuts and the wars were things Obama inherited. That's undeniable. All the Obama hate in the world won't change the fact that he didn't cause the deficit.

He wanted to raise revenues with a tax increase on the wealthy. The dems didn't stop him. The GOP did. The GOP OWNS the deficit.

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Why doesn't anyone address the real issue which is our spending problem. Obama flat out lied when he said that he would not raise taxes on the middle class. My paycheck and others as well tell a different story. It is the divisive nature of articles such as this that make me wonder what has our country become. We cannot have open and honest debates without there being attacks on ones character, class, economic status, etc. What was once called the United States is now the Divided States.

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Next comment: 1.17 trillion dollars. That is the total amount of US Cash dollars in circulation as of Dec. 2012. So, the government could collect ever scrap of cash, and barely pay one months interest on the outstanding debt. So there certainly is a problem and it didn't start with Bush or Clinton or Obama or Reagen. It started when Americans started trusting government to do the right thing and "We the People" took our eyes off the ball. It is our responsibility come together to pressure the clowns into getting this stuff fixed. It is their job to keep us divided and weak and fool us into believing that kicking the can down road is acceptable.

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This blaming Bush for everything routine is getting old. Tell me friend, after 9/11, what would Americans have said if Bush stood up and said, Americans, al quaida killed three thousand of us but we are not going to go after them because we are worried about spending too much money. What would Americans have thought about that? All of the spending for those wars was approved by Dems and Repubs and it was money well spent! So get over that stupid argument, please!

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Obama cut spending in his first term more than any president since Eisenhower. The deficit continued to grow under him because of spending commitments he didn't make. He inherited them - from Bush.

Bush's war commitments didn't stop when he left office.

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Coincidentally, the $450,000 number the president decided to "concede to" is telling when President's Salary Effective January 1, 2001, the annual salary of the President of the United States was increased to $400,000 per year, including a $50,000 expense allowance.

Soo, raise the taxes on those that make more then me but,...NOT ME.. yeah lets discuss that magical number deeper

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it is interesting you blame all of the spending on bush wars...Each of Mr. Obama’s annual deficits has been larger than any since the 1940s. Deficits aggregate into debt, and as I have previously written it is reasonable to think of President Obama and George W. Bush as each being responsible for roughly one-third of the debt — with all presidents from George Washington through Bill Clinton responsible for the remaining third. (In the absence of George W. Bush, it would of course be much harder, perhaps impossible, to argue that President Obama has not been a radical departure from previous presidents on debt.) ((from a forbes.c0m article)).. this country HAS to stop this me against you theory in govt. Either that or fail utterly. As with private debt.. someone will come to collect what is owed somewhere down the line, I dont care if you tax everyone at 30% including lower class, that is still just a smidge in the bucket of our debt. stop the erratic spending, BOTH SIDES

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